Concise Minutes - Public Accounts Committee

Meeting Venue:

Committee Room 3 - Senedd

Meeting date: Monday, 8 July 2019

Meeting time: 12.45 - 16.49
This meeting can be viewed
on Senedd TV at:
http://senedd.tv/en/5460

------

Attendance

Category	Names
Assembly Members:	Nick Ramsay AM (Chair) Mohammad Asghar (Oscar) AM Gareth Bennett AM Vikki Howells AM Rhianon Passmore AM Adam Price AM Jenny Rathbone AM
Witnesses:	Joe Teape, Hywel Dda University Health Board Huw Thomas, Hywel Dda University Health Board Mandy Rayani, Hywel Dda University Health Board Judith Paget, Aneurin Bevan Health Board Glyn Jones, Aneurin Bevan University Health Board Martine Price, Aneurin Bevan University Health Board
Wales Audit Office:	Adrian Crompton – Auditor General for Wales Matthew Mortlock Mark Jeffs
Committee Staff:	Meriel Singleton (Second Clerk) Claire Griffiths (Deputy Clerk)

<AI1>

1 Management of follow up outpatients across Wales: Consideration of draft report

1.1 The Committee considered the draft report and a revised version will be prepared for consideration on 15 July 2019.

</AI1>

<AI2>

2 Primary care out-of-hours service: Consideration of draft report

2.1 The Committee agreed the draft report, subject to a few minor revisions which will be circulated outside of Committee.

</AI2>

<AI3>

3 Introductions, apologies, substitutions and declarations of interest

3.1 The Chair welcomed the Members to the meeting. There were no apologies.

</AI3>

<AI4>

4 Paper(s) to note

4.1 The papers were noted.

</AI4>

<AI5>

4.1 Auditor General for Wales Report: Wales Audit Office Annual Report and Accounts 2018-19

</AI5>

<AI6>

4.2 Care experienced children and young people: Letter from the Chair of the Children, Young People and Education Committee (21 June 2019)

</AI6>

<AI7>

4.3 Primary care out-of-hours service: Letter from the Welsh Government (25 June 2019)

</AI7>

<AI8>

4.4 Management of follow up outpatients across Wales: Letter from the Welsh Government (26 June 2019)

</AI8>

<AI9>

5 Implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014: Evidence Session with Hywel Dda University Health Board

5.1 The Committee took evidence on their inquiry into the implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014 from Hywel Dda University Health Board.

5.2 The Director of Finance agreed to send details of the total expenditure on overtime for permanent staff in contrast to the reduction of costs on agency staff.

5.3 Due to time restraints, the Chair advised that the Clerks would write with a number of questions that were unable to be asked.

</AI9>

<AI10>

6 Implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014: Evidence Session with Aneurin Bevan University Health Board

6.1 The Committee took evidence on their inquiry into the implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014 from Aneurin Bevan University Health Board.

6.2 Due to time restraints, the Chair advised that the Clerks would write with a number of questions that were unable to be asked.

</AI10>

<AI11>

7 Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:

7.1 The motion as agreed.

</AI11>

<AI12>

8 Implementation of the NHS Finance (Wales) Act 2014: Consideration of evidence received

8.1 The Members discussed the evidence received.

</AI12>

<AI13>

9 Forward Work Programme: Consideration of Autumn 2019 Work Programme

9.1 Members noted the proposed work programme for the autumn 2019 term.

</AI13>

<AI14>

10 Counter Fraud in the Public Sector: Follow-up from event held on 1 July

10.1 Members discussed the event held on Counter Fraud in the Public Sector and passed their feedback to the Auditor General for Wales.

</AI14>

<TRAILER_SECTION>

</TRAILER_SECTION>

<LAYOUT_SECTION>

1. FIELD_TITLE

FIELD_SUMMARY

</LAYOUT_SECTION>

<TITLE_ONLY_LAYOUT_SECTION>

2. FIELD_TITLE

</TITLE_ONLY_LAYOUT_SECTION>

<HEADING_LAYOUT_SECTION>

FIELD_TITLE

</HEADING_LAYOUT_SECTION>

<TITLED_COMMENT_LAYOUT_SECTION>

FIELD_TITLE

FIELD_SUMMARY

</TITLED_COMMENT_LAYOUT_SECTION>

<COMMENT_LAYOUT_SECTION>

FIELD_SUMMARY

</COMMENT_LAYOUT_SECTION>

<SUBNUMBER_LAYOUT_SECTION>

2.1 FIELD_TITLE

FIELD_SUMMARY

</SUBNUMBER_LAYOUT_SECTION>

<TITLE_ONLY_SUBNUMBER_LAYOUT_SECTION>

2.2 FIELD_TITLE

</TITLE_ONLY_SUBNUMBER_LAYOUT_SECTION>